few weeks ago I received an SMS from an unknown number with the content.
".... Welcome More news to follow from the 40800th Enjoy SMS No more answers out of this!? Number. "
The SMS contained course, no price or provider information.
I wanted to have no new messages, so I sent an SMS with the text "Out" to the 40800th
error ....
Because now it is just the beginning.
get in the next few days I suddenly unexpectedly SMS. This time of the 40800th
"Mobile Detox http://tom.bobmobile.com/tomwap ...."
"Yoga Begins http://tom.bobmobile.com/tomwap ...."
"Funny sayings http://tom.bobmobile.com/tomwap ...."
"Magic Touch http://tom.bobmobile.com/tomwap ...."
So all completely useless SMS spam. Annoying, I think I still ....
until I see the bill ...
"Net Mobile AG 41.86 EUR.
! He is a business concept! Not only bring unwanted junk to the people, but also pay the beneficiary up to 5 EUR per SMS for leave. The dump is about the same as I would my garbage in the garden of the neighbors and for each 5 over EUR the cash flow statement.
Sensational!
I, however, the items claimed immediately at T-Mobile and threatened with return of the debit.
In response I get a letter.
"Your question about the specific services
....
we like to inform you of the provider net mobile AG ...
We encourage you to pay the amount completely, so that your account balance is. Any refund you the credit provider usually by check or he shall pay the amount to your bank account. "
A brief Internet search brings it quickly to the Light. In the Net Mobile AG is is quite simply to professional SMS fraudsters who with the same and similar frauds have ripped off thousands of people.
And T-Mobile makes along. Why? T-Mobile of course deserves well with the fraud of the Net Mobile AG. I would guess that T-Mobile conceded at least 20% of the fraud of commission.
I agree with T-Mobile, of:
"Hello,
as you know for a long time, it is your partners' net mobile AG" SMS to known fraudsters ....
I unlike you have no contractual relationship with the Net Mobile AG.
your audit and due diligence to be performed. The damage is so completely at your expense.
I will remove all wrongly debited amounts under the caption "net mobile AG" from future bills. "
Thereupon, I only get the hint .... friendly
" Dear Mr. ABC,
thank you for your fax of 16.07.2009.
Here again the contact details of the net mobile AG:
http://www.net-m.de
reklamationen@net-m.de
Postal address:
Zollhof 17
40 221 Dusseldorf.
We set up for you a lock for third-party services.
T-Mobile is effective for third-party services in advance.
If costs were caused by a subscription, this subscription is to terminate the relevant provider. T-Mobile can not. "
Sincerely " is
The strategy of T-Mobile now clear. You try the problem at the "net mobile AG" pull the trigger. As a professional cheater you put there, however, the highest value on customer satisfaction, good service and easy access ....
When I check the bill again, I also note that I pay my fare 15 EUR too much. Meanwhile, T-Mobile improves the conditions, the advantage is, however, not further the existing customers.
When I call the service hotline one is willing to adjust the rate and confirms to you that you basically never aware of existing customers cheaper rates makes.
Super Service, T-Mobile! When I
the customer service is still my trouble with the Net Mobile AG describe it but interesting ....
T-Mobile employees. "People hardly even dare to make his phone now if you already have a subscription, if you just sent a text message ...."
gets interesting. At T-Mobile we know so well, and posts modest amounts for the next gay deceiver of the net mobile AG from .....
So if I am asks, is the definition of "complicity in fraud ".....
And should I run after my money, that T-Mobile distributed willingly despite his knowledge of fraud against plans to commission fraud?
I think it shoots.
to block
As T-Mobile despite my request, all services of the Net Mobile AG, again deducts a hefty amount for the net mobile AG, I cancel the direct debit.
now I can follow my actions and I notice the next mobile phone bill reduced by any wrongly debited amounts. Now it was at T-Mobile awake again ....
"They want to have paid the claim of net mobile AG by us.
We can fulfill your desire not.
Please contact the" net mobile AG "name. For privacy reasons we can not guarantee your The bill claim there
Contact:
net mobile AG
Zollhof 17 40 221
Dusseldorf Germany - GERMANY
phone. +49-211-97020-0
Fax: +49-211-97020-999
email Mail: reklamationen@net-m.de
Even if we meet could not this time, it is important that you send your questions and wishes on us. Call us on when we can do something for you. We are in the business customer service 24 hours a day like for you.
Sincerely
Musa Avsar
Business Service
"
may expel the problem but I also ....
" Hi, I have no
contract and therefore no claim against a Net Mobile AG. In other words, for me there is no "Net Mobile AG.
All I know is that I have a Contract with * you * and * your * I have under one invoice item with an inscription "net mobile ag" unjustifiably have money deducted. How do you divide your money to scammers I do not care quite frankly. This is quite time to say the least your problem.
I think you make for active complicity in fraud by still collect money for the Net Mobile AG.
Best regards, "
I'm curious how the case ends, for the alternatives I have already announced T-Mobile:
" Hello,
following 2 options:
1) Your full that you set me under the caption "net mobile ag" too much deducted have made, the account balance adjusted to 0, and I'll give another direct debit.
2) your urges, restricting access, I quit without notice for attempted fraud and breach of contract.
your choice, "
is my opinion, therefore, the following facts.
- apply it in this case the Distance Selling Regulations Due to the lack of providers, pricing and cancellation information was no contract between me and the Net Mobile AG. Thus, there is also no requirement on the part of the Net Mobile AG to me. It also means the inverse conclusion that I have no claim on the Net Mobile AG.
- self if a valid contract would have come to is the paid SMS junk they send because no valuable consideration. The business model is only designed to detriment of consumers and therefore immoral. What the Net Mobile AG operates here is quite clear for me professionally fraud (§ 263 StGB ).
- At T-Mobile one is informed, and yet it continues to draw on the claims is a T-Mobile bill. Without the active support of T-Mobile would be a fraud in the form would not be possible. T-Mobile is thus at least active assistance to the fraud (§ 27 StGB ). Since T-Mobile but the commission also benefit directly from the activities of the Net Mobile AG is possibly even before professional fraud.
- T-Mobile carries the burden of proof for the claims which they feed with the bill. The reference to the provider of third-party services is, in my view only if between the providers of third-party services and the customer is a valid contract exists. However, this is not the case here.
My tentative conclusion:
- you Applies directly to T-Mobile, and do not get rid of the Net Mobile AG.
- T-Mobile will reconsider his conduct in the matter, obviously only when the costs exceed the income, . That is enough to make customers get rid of stress and can not be easily.
A case of economic crime?
is interesting, incidentally, that do the owners of the Net Mobile AG randomly just sell your store. prospect is currently the Japanese telecommunications company NTT Docomo .
I suspect, therefore, that the owners of the Net Mobile AG tweak again by all your figures to the store to sell on price and then disappear with the coal over the mountains can be.
Here you can NTT Docomo warn .
see so fraudsters from
Net Mobile AG's Executive Board (left to right): Frank Hartmann, Theodor Niehues, Kai Markus Kulas, Dieter Plassmann ( source ) Here are some links ....
- SMS text: "Error message their mailbox had to be restarted There are 2 photos and 3 messages on their voice mail, reply with info to 36 666 or.." Www.shop24.to "
- Prosecutor search the offices of the Net Mobile AG on suspicion the accounting fraud.
- " the phone, with NetMobile no one is available - it depends only on hold, which again costs money "
- "SMS fraud on the net mobile ag - o2 and Co. do with ! "
- Ringtones: Massive fraud uncovered
" ... All the defendants include the company Net Mobile ...."
- The case Net Mobile AG - Spam telephone
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